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kaija
Mon Feb 08 2010, 04:28PM

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Not much of a clue about this one. Thought it was of the Ottoman Empire, but then it looks like Hindu language too..especially the big swirl which is possibly a north India '4'. It's been made into jewelwry and is a wafer thin imprint maybe pressed from a real coin or it may actually be a real coin. It's probably made of gold.

So...

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Nicholas
Tue Feb 09 2010, 02:42PM


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Hmm. I am also thinking Middle East or South Asian. Do you have a pic of the other side?
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kaija
Tue Feb 09 2010, 05:19PM

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Oh, it is one sided. It is stamped through from behind. It's a puzzler.

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Nicholas
Tue Feb 09 2010, 07:04PM


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Ok here is what I have found out:

It's a crude imitation of an Ottoman Empire gold coin from the 1800's; the swirly thing is a very simplistic attempt to draw a toughra. Specifically, the hayriye altin series issued from 1827 to 1832. See this example on Zeno.ru.

There are five examples of this coin on Zeno; all of them are holed. The genuine coins, as well as the imitations like yours, were extensively used for jewellery purposes.


Close match

I didn't know what a toughra was. Apparently it's the unique seal of an Ottoman sultan put on coins, stamps and official documents.
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kaija
Wed Feb 10 2010, 12:55PM

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Yeah, that's the coin that made me think it was of the Ottoman Empire. I was 95% sure it wasn't a proper coin. Heh, they aren't called toughras for nothing. I can accept it is an imitation...the only one thing that does make me question that is that the big swirl is identical to the number four in North Indian languages..but I've looked through coins of that region and couldn't see anything similar. Anyhoo, just a piece of junk.

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Nicholas
Wed Feb 10 2010, 01:09PM


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I am still curious about who made your coin and why they chose what they chose for the design.

I am going to keep a look out in case I come across any other similar coins.
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mdurante
Tue Apr 06 2010, 07:36PM
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This looks similar to some Tibetan coins I've seen .. some of the symbols at least. You sure the central symbol faces that way? If you face it sideways it could look like a fish or an alpha symbol?
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kaija
Tue Apr 06 2010, 07:46PM

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Well, my original feeling was that it was Northern Indian and because of the centre swirl being close to north Indian language numerals...but the tiny characters either side look like Arabic for 1(0) and 8 if the coin is reversed. I guess we need someone to identify the characters in the three cartouches. Honestly, to me it looks like a mixture of Arabic and Indian Ayrian

I've no idea which up it is supposed to be.

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